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Transcript: (00:08) [Music] all right [Music] [Laughter] [Music] [Music] thank you [Laughter] [Music] [Music] (01:26) thank you [Music] [Laughter] [Music] [Laughter] [Music] [Laughter] [Music] [Laughter] [Music] [Music] [Laughter] [Music] foreign (02:33) [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] foreign [Music] [Music] (03:43) foreign [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] foreign [Music] [Music] (04:50) foreign [Music] [Laughter] [Music] friends welcome welcome I'm here with Carolyn mace a special webinar on the science of medical intuition and I'm so grateful that you're all joining us let me tell you just a little bit about Carolyn first and foremost she's a friend a friend to me a friend who sounds true we've worked together now gosh I think it's it's it's getting I think it's three decades so uh it's a long time kiddo yeah and I you know I have to say Carolyn it keeps (05:43) getting better it keeps getting better it's awesome to have the kind of partnership that we have many of you know Carolyn as one of the most accurate and well-respected Medical intuitives in the world as a medical intuitive that means she's able to sense assess diagnose illness through intuitive means and that's what we'll be talking about in this session she is the author of many books including five five New York Times bestsellers books that have been so influential and so many of our Lives (06:21) sacred contracts anatomy of the spirit why people heal don't heal and why they can and with sounds true Carolyn has created north of 20 intensive learning programs with us including a program on the science of medical intuition self-diagnosis and healing with your body's energy system and for those of you who are joining us on a player page if you want to learn more about this course the science of medical intuition just click the learn more button on the page if you're on YouTube joining us you can learn more about the science of (07:03) medical intuition course in the notes section in the show notes and then if you're with us here on sounds true one we'll put the link about the course in the chat and as it sounds true one member you get a special member discount of 20 and for those of you who are joining us and are like what is this sounds true one thing anyway it's our new community platform and if you want to learn more go to join.soundstrew. (07:34) com all right Carolyn let's get started and I want to begin by talking about intuition in general even before we go deep into the topic of medical intuition how do you see the nature of intuition is it like we have access to some universal mind or how is it that you see it you know I I have evolved in my understanding of intuition Through The Years obviously because um it's a primary skill and that's how I think of it now Tammy but I think of intuition as um one of the survival skills that we're born with but I'll describe it like this (08:21) and that's that um we are we're born wired to listen to our inner self because intuition at the gut level and it progresses through stages of of its um refinement in US and at the gut level it is a primary survival skill that just says you know don't go in there don't go in that room don't do this uh do this don't you know slow down there's ice ahead kind of it it's it's because this is what's true the universe is a very conscious being and and it in part of the and this is (09:11) the nature of organic divinity the the way the universe has set up its mechanism is to support the survival of life and part of the survival mechanism is survival guidance that just flows into all creatures it it flows into the animal kingdom the animal instincts you know run to Higher Ground the tsunamis coming and it flows into us and and at the survival level it is that basic gut instinct that says I I don't trust this person I don't know why and you you don't even at the survival level have to be aware that it's Intuition or (09:57) think about it the way we do it's it just engages which is why gamblers it's a you talk about a gambler's instinct or someone who plays the stock market it's it's a it's just a basic survival Instinct it's someone who says I'm gonna play a hunch and what causes intuition to from the survival Instinct to then mature to the next level which is a more conscious inner voice is the development of self-esteem it's that you you do you you esteem your own inner sense you begin to pay (10:42) attention to your own inner instincts that you think you know I I I I it's it's like the consequence of self-respect or self but it really is what self-esteem is all about is that I I trust my gut instincts and if I were to put this and feel in mystical language it's your growing relationship with the threat of truth of how truth makes its way into our experience um as human beings from from uh the toilet water to Cologne to perfume and at the toilet water stage it's this gut instinct but as we mature and we develop our (11:30) sense of self which is a whole other discussion why are we compelled to do that why is self-empowerment so important to we the population that is post-nuclear War I mean nuclear age when it was never an issue before we are people who have become obsessed with our interior world and our inner senses are part of that journey into our inner self and the development of the self is um we you people don't even realize they're Awakening this inner voice this inner relationship and that's that next level of gut instinct but it's a higher (12:21) more refined self and then they start asking more refined questions like well I wonder what the reason is that I've been born I wonder what what I'm supposed to be doing here the questions about one's life become more refined um they've become they become closer to question prayers then someone wants to seek guidance and guidance is yet another level because now what you're doing is you're actually turning your conscious attention to the inner World whereas before all of this instinct is operating (12:59) just purely on the survival mechanism but as you become more conscious the mechanism becomes more conscious as does what is expected of you to be able to hear and respond to that all right let me ask you a personal question Carolyn ask me anything you're you you are dare I say uh one of this is a very like this is a qualified statement I can definitely say this the most intuitive people I have ever met in my 60 years on the planet for sure why do you think that is of what what what about how you've approached your life (13:42) has enabled your instinct to mature in the way that it has all right I'm just going to make up an answer this is what I think okay I don't have many distractions Tammy I I don't have I don't have many distractions I think when I'm looking at you I'm not looking at the camera and I'm just trying to make sure I'm getting the angle right here you're doing it great you're doing great you're doing great you know what Tammy I don't have many distractions for one thing (14:09) and and the second thing and this is really the truth and I'm very uncomfortable talking about this but um I I have never experienced doubt about what exists in the non-physical world I've never felt disconnected in fact I've always felt more connected to that world in and I can tell you when I found my spiritual director 25 years ago I actually said to him I need to find a way to feel connected to the physical world because I I don't because I don't I need to somehow break through this I feel like I'm owned by the non-physical (15:02) world and I can't get out and and then I I know that that may not make sense to you but the non-physical world has the mystical world the world of all of which is a world I cannot see with my eyes physically but I've understood it and I know its presence is as real to me as you are and I've trusted that so deeply and in the Years growing up I've heard it whisper to me and its guidance has been um as clear as I'm speaking to you always in my left ear but and only when I've needed it to either save my life or to explain a (15:49) situation I'm in and um um I'll give you an example and it's one I use all the time but because it was so extraordinary and I was driving home from work one day at midnight when I was in college and I worked at a candy factory where they made Snickers and uh it was a little after midnight and I heard slow down a red trucks going to run the stop sign at the next street now I heard that but I didn't stop and say oh my God I'm hearing a voice and as soon as the red truck ran the stop sign I realized I had been told that that would (16:29) happen and it never occurred to me not then not as a child when these things happened and never through my adult years that when I had incidences like that that I was in any way shape or form crazy in fact after that experience I drove home that night giggling like crazy saying to God I cannot get over that you even watch where I drive I can't get over it all it did was increase my sense of safety and and intimacy with the invisible world so when I I was always incredibly perceptive when I was when I was a kid and I would be (17:16) driving with my mother I would have these hits and I'd say to her you know what's going on in that house you know what's going on there you know it's going to I would do these wild readings that meant nothing but I was just like and I I and I would and I remember walking in even when I was uh looking for a house to buy I walked in one night I said someone just died in here and someone didn't I walked out because I didn't want I didn't want that energy I it never occurred to me to say to myself (17:50) you must be crazy instead and I think this could be how Grace works um I looked at it like how in the world do people get through life without being this connected to God how do they do it how how do they walk out their front door without being disconnected this intensely intimately connected ha ha I I I wouldn't set foot out in the world without this connection I would be terrified and when I when I think of things what I had you know I went through a period of a couple of years where I had Grandma's seizures as you know but 25 years ago (18:41) and I was sitting at the counter my of my when I had a townhouse 20 years ago it was the last seizure I had and I I could feel this Grandma coming on and I knew I'm sitting at the counter and I thought I've got to get to I've got to get to a soft Landing I've got to get to the couch I've got to get off because and I looked down I thought this will break my neck because I was sitting on one of those higher chairs that you have at a breakfast thing and I thought I'm gonna break my neck and then I I (19:15) heard my guide who said let go I've got you and boom and Tammy I woke up on the ground I should have hit a broken skull or a broken neck but I not an injury and the chair I was on was 10 feet from me 10 feet to Sam Tammy and and the first time I had a grandma because I had I've had about six in this period of time I I I was still in New Hampshire this outfit far back this these experiences were and I woke up on the floor in my office in The Farmhouse and I looked at the clock and I and the clock had been turned around on (19:56) my desk to face me and the phone was on the floor next to me on the floor and as I lay there I thought what happened to me and I heard my guide and he said you've had a grandma call Norm now I'm never told you'll be fine you don't have a brain tumor you'd just be fine pull yourself together but the the I follow these instructions with such trust and confidence so I got up and I and I and I wanted I went to Norm's clinic and I went through all the the MRIs and the and he was looking for a brain tumor and and and you know this (20:42) intimacy with heaven doesn't mean you're off the hook from any illness or anything like that so I I spent four years with dealing with you know seizure and idiopathic seizure activity they couldn't figure out why I broke my nose I busted my forehead I had all kinds of horrible things happen and then it ended and and during that time I mean my wiring my wiring was um they call it the mystics disorder and I think maybe there's a lot of Truth to that because my inner wiring was was shifting and I I there was a moment where I could (21:26) actually feel things getting burned into my brain I know it sounds a little bit odd except that it's not so yeah go ahead well I think that for me the mystically unreasonable has always been incredibly comfortable I've simply always understood this world and it's made sense and it's been my reference point for um like I when I went into medical intuition and I started to do readings I mean I came from a background of Theology and journalism and history I'd never taken an anatomy class never took anything (22:23) so I had to go on trust of my gut instinct and intuition which all right by this time I was I was 30 years old and um I had I I left my life in Chicago and went up to New Hampshire didn't want to go there but I did so now I I ended up um doing medical intuitive readings with Norm Sheely who I'd met at this meeting in Kansas and uh nobody was more surprised than I was that I could do these readings with such accuracy but with each reading with each reading I felt as if I was entering a universe I didn't know existed (23:13) I didn't know we had a human Energy System like this now coming from a background in mystical theology I I was schooled in the soul but not an energy Anatomy all right this was and and here is another thing that I owe everything to what I learned in medical into as a medical intuition as a medical intuitive I had no idea that every single choice we make is truly an Act of Creation or that we are as finely organized energetically in our anatomical system as we are physically today I would teach that we live in a (24:03) biospiritual ecology and that we are micro Earths and that every single choice you make everything is an incredible Act of Creation and that self-esteem is your major building block in order to get how incredibly and Powerful you are and that one of the reasons uh each person feels such deep resentment when they say things like I have to get my power back is because power is the fundamental ingredient of The Human Experience it is our power that we are here to manage to govern to to to to it it use creatively (24:48) that that in fact the Journey of life is actually the Journey of moving from our love of power to the power of love and that is essentially the journey every one of us is on and that Journey plays out in our bio-spiritual ecology which is our body so for me medical intuition and medical intuitives um and I would I would love to see the College of medical intuition open one day that I think because now when I look at what causes us to lose power the ingredient of power has to be included in every single health (25:38) um interview which is how do you use your power what intimidates you um there has to be some kind of power evaluation um do you lie uh do you know are you comfortable with truth where are you on that scale because these are the actual stressors that then in turn become the anxieties within a person that then trigger our chemistry now Carolyn in the science of medical intuition training course that you and Norm have created you're teaching people how they can engage with their own health their own health condition how to (26:24) do a self-assessment how to listen more deeply how to receive guidance and I want to talk to that person now who's with us who says look I have a health condition that nobody seems to be able to tell me what's really at the root and I've done a lot of inner searching and I'm still confused and I'm a person of Integrity I'm not like I'm running around lying and stealing I just don't understand what's at the root of my uh health condition how is a program like this going to help (27:00) me and right here in this moment Carolyn what can you say to somebody who has that level of just deep confusion and isn't quite sure how to turn into their own inner guidance at this point well the first thing I would point out is that if you're asking a medical intuitive if you were asking me you're first of all crossing a very important Rubicon and that's that you're moving from the world of polarity where you think there's one answer for every one problem to a world of to the Hologram world where I have to (27:41) introduce you to a very different form a very different template of cause and effect that includes multiple forces instead of this world which is for every one problem there's one answer so if you're going to go into the world of intuitive Sciences you have to cross a Rubicon which means I'm entering into a different reality space and in this space there's no such thing as one answer the second thing so it's almost like I have to prep you the second thing is I have to break that circuit in you (28:30) that says I'm a good person so why did bad things happen to me that somehow or other than if I could just find the one thing then everything will be put back together again just the way it was which is in this world the way people think and I know that because I've done over ten thousand twelve thousand readings that when people come in what they what where that obstacle course is is that they're looking for one reason why this happened what's the one reason why I got sick and that's that typical model in the (29:06) world of polarity you know there's everything's right or wrong good or bad but in this world in the world of intuitive science you've entered into a hologram where there are multiple Force forces working in you and in that world of the Hologram these forces are neither good or bad you are just now looking at how is it that I live what are my stresses so you've got to get out of this I'm looking for just one thing but now I'm looking to understand who I am and how I use my power and how the distribution of the power in (29:47) my life is either nurturing me or it's not so you're working within now a whole different way of looking at your health so that's the fir that right there is is one of the greatest gifts you can give yourself is that you've crossed into a very different approach to how to even understand your health and healing okay when you say how I'm using my power in ways that either nourish me or don't tell me more what you mean by that maybe give an example sure well um you know uh when I was doing readings (30:29) one of the first major insights that I finally really got was that I was doing readings if we use that word and what I was reading was how a person made choices and the consequence to their energy system that those choices engaged so if we if we make a choice and we have to to be resentful if we we make a choice um to be addicted look at all the Cravings we have we make a choice that says I simply have to have this lipstick I have to and you understand me and if I don't and that what people don't understand (31:18) and it'll take forever to get human beings to understand that is that each of these choices actually has an energetic consequence and that energy is that if people could picture themselves even as we're speaking as just extend your arms as far as you can and just imagine that you you're in a um a bubble and that is the full length of yourself and that you actually really do have life force coming into you all the time it's your Prana it's your breath it's your life okay and that and that you are (31:56) always Distributing every choice you make you're directing your life force a choice costs you energy it costs you energy if you just it's like shopping I mean buying something costs you money and and if you don't buy anything you don't even remember it you walk out of the store and you're not attached to anything but if you buy something and use your charge card you can create huge debt and you owe something and so you're attached to it so what I was reading was I was reading attachments (32:32) I was reading the attachments people have and it's like it's like a magnetic string that they have and a number of attachments cause people to just drain their power so that even though they're we're looking at some I'm looking at someone who's physically in front of me the majority of their energy has been distributed like fragments to different places in their psychic field that are not productive so it's like it's like all the great teachers in the scriptures why are you holding on to the Dead (33:11) so people stay attached to for example I should have could have would have I should have done this I could have done this this could have been me resentments I just resent those people because blah blah blah blah blah blah or this person said this to me and I can't forgive them why do you think forgiveness is always emphasized all the things people hang on to or physical addictions alcohol drugs the thing Cravings the craving of attention how people will um uh use the the beauty of their life creative Force (33:51) and and all they do is direct it toward the need to get attention think about how some what someone the thoughts people dwell in you know I um they strategize I've got to get more attention I've got to get this I've got to get that the waste of time and and each one of these does it produce anything does it bring you back a harvest when you invest your energy in something creative that supports the life of just supports life that makes life better for anybody that whatever it is that makes life better for yourself or makes life better (34:35) for someone else in any way shape or form creating a sounds true program writing a book teaching a class being kind to someone going to visit someone taking care of a sick relative whatever it is you are investing your life force in life and it creates a harvest for you and that comes back and sure you might be exhausted from it but it doesn't drain your energy it doesn't cost you in the same way that investing your energy and resentments or negative things do I assure you I assure you you must have seen and known cases of (35:17) people who did a lot of inner investigation weren't holding on to bitterness resentment and yet still went through some kind of disease progression and yes and died how do you understand that because Tammy life is not logical or Fair and every life we have is not just the life we have and I think sometimes the life that the challenges we have and this is gonna this is going to be difficult to explain but I'll give it my best shot I don't know that we live one life at a time okay I think that sometimes (36:01) I think we have a micro self and we have a macro cell and I think that we often we oftentimes run psychic free radicals through our system that belong to the collective and they don't belong to us and we we have because we're part of the collective so we are micro and we are macro what is in one is in the whole what is in the hole is in the one so each of us is also breathing in the quality of the collective pollution that must come through us as well so our suffering and our challenges are not personal all the time they are not (36:56) sometimes we just like when when somebody is in a tsunami it's not personal it's part of what happens in nature it's not personal and sometimes our sufferings are not personal and all that we do to heal it's it's worse as and as as challenging as this might seem we have to remember we're not getting off this planet alive so death is not failure death is not failure and that question comes from the position that death is fit is failure and that if we don't heal its failure and that is not the truth (37:41) that there are that every single person there comes a point where we will have to say fairly well to each other and we'll see each other on the other side and somehow or other we cannot seem to incorporate that truth into how we understand the Journey of life but like Arjuna and Krishna sitting at the the edge of the battlefield when Arjuna says to Krishna I fear the fabric of the universe is is going to split in this battle and if I go and I kill people on the other side it it is my it endangers my karma if I (38:20) don't fight this battle there will go my Dharma I am called to fight but I but Jewish Krishna replies yes you will kill them but the universe has provided and there'll be another life there'll be another time we here's the thing we see things through such a small lens Tammy such a small lens and nobody wants to see their loved ones pass nobody nobody nobody God knows I've had to see so many of my family members die and Friends many this past year and a half um but I I think the idea that somehow or other the goal (39:10) of life is to get our physical form to exist as long as it can forever is a we've morphed something Tammy that's not the goal the goal is to live as well as we can and to use our energy and soul as magnificently as we can but make no mistake we're going to be called home right I I understand Caroline but you know there's a difference between forever and I think a genuine desire to live a very long and healthy life and I think many of us want to live a long and healthy life and see anything short of (39:50) that as a form of loss or defeat yes yes and by and and I certainly I certainly agree with that and I and I wish that there were logical reasons that I could offer people logical and just and fair reasons that I could offer people like well you're not healing and here's the reason but I have to say that um we have a way of pulling Karma into our reasoning when convenient but not when not convenient okay and and um I don't know how Karma Works itself out and I also don't know like I have done just a handful of readings that (40:47) in which the condition the person had was not because of anything anything I could identify in this life but rather from a life yet to be lived whoa yet to be lived yet to be lived a life yet to be lived and and as I say I've only done a few of these where that was the that the life yet to be lived was influencing this life so strongly and that um and from the universe's point of view everything's a blink of an eye from ours it's like look at the clock and look at the time right but um I thought oh my God (41:38) this is you know when these readings first popped up and as rare as they were um and it it happened over a period of maybe eight or nine years and they were only five of four or five of them but with each time I got a reading like that my sense of what I would call vertical consciousness simultaneity instead of this horizontal you know year after year after year it went into this sense of vertical that in fact we're shifting that if I had to explain the great shift we're living it really is the shift from horizontal (42:22) to Vertical Consciousness to simultaneity to to uh moving into the hologram which means that in that space in the Kairos world all things are simultaneous there is no such thing as history in energy Tammy there's no such thing as history and energy your energy contains um everything that in even even in reading your energy what I was reading was yet a different dimension of energy that is pressing upon us but it doesn't make its way in that easily because it might it's it's a different dimension but it did in these five readings and I (43:13) realized that was also influencing us and and Tammy what this moment of Consciousness is about is that our lenses are opening up so we can include this data in an understanding the nature of our own magnificent Consciousness and that you know what how is it we will have to live if we begin to realize that other lifetimes are actually really influencing us and as I think of them seeping into people um here's this I think one of the reasons we have to develop such an extraordinary sense of self is so that the parameters of who we are (44:07) can touch the parameters of who we've been who we might be otherwise what what we will say as we stand in our body is I'm hearing voices I must be going mad now I know as as part of the science of medical intuition training course Norm Sheely offers a past life regression guided experience but I'd love to know Carolyn since you've done more than 10 000 readings have you seen past lives influencing someone's health and could you share an example of you know an anonymous sort of situation but (44:45) give us a sense of how someone's past life is impacting their health Tammy you want to know the first time I did a reading uh on a past and a past life came up I didn't even realize it until I I because this is the kind of stuff I had no use for right I mean so Norm calls me up and there's someone in his office right and he only gave me name and age that was all and I and I instantly get this image and so I wanted to just say to the audience you know what's an image like and an image is um like if I said to everybody right now (45:26) I want you to think of what your living room looks like so you'll get a picture in your mind of a living room but it's not an actual picture and it's not it's this familiar pixel and and that's what a reading is like it's like a pixel that comes in but it's not familiar it's I have no attachment to it so I get this pixel of this woman but she's dressed like a pirate she's got this low-cut dress on and a long skirt and a and and I and a kind of a knife at her side and I so I said to Norm and of course (46:05) she's sitting right in front of dorm and Norm's on the phone and I said Norm why is she dressed like that and he said and he's looking at a at a sure country woman from Springfield Missouri and he's just looking at her in a blouse and a pair of jeans and he says I don't know maybe she likes it and I said Warren didn't your staff say anything to you when she came in and he said what are you looking at and I said a pilot and he said oh my God and he said keep going and I said well she looks like a pirate to me and and (46:45) uh and I said I don't know I said something happened to her neck I said what he said all right I'm calling you back well he hangs up the phone and he says what do you say and she was like like more or less a fundamentalist and he said would you would you agree to a little like um I don't think he called it past life Tammy I think he in a relaxation something like that but he he did this oh guided meditation that's what I call it guided meditation she instantly sees herself on a pirate ship getting (47:19) slashed to the neck and she was in there for Phantom Gorder pain uh-huh so that was the first one that was the first one so I yeah there was but there were several they weren't all that dramatic or all that specific but yes the past life was very much so okay we're getting uh lots of good questions that people are writing in feel free uh oh friends who are with us the Q a tab you can write in your questions we have someone who's written in is meditation the best way to strengthen our intuition now I'm going (47:57) to add if not what is no um I don't meditate I have no use for it but um if you want to meditate you go right ahead the best thing to strengthen your meditation is self-esteem and trust and to uh develop a sense of rapport with truth now if meditation helps you do that you go right ahead but what helps you to develop your sense of self and I will tell you it's not telling people this is what I need and blah blah blah that's baby stuff developing your sense of self is all about developing faith and I mean faith and trust in yourself (48:47) developing a sense that you can trust your own word to yourself that you can have faith in yourself that if someone says if Tammy said to me Carol will you keep this can I confide something in you and if I said to Tammy you certainly can she knows because I know that that will never be broken okay when it comes to deepening our sense of trust it's one thing to keep our word to keep our word to ourselves okay I get that but let's say you know I'll speak for myself for a moment I get intuitive guidance and I (49:29) listen and often though Carolyn I have a question mark inside I have doubt you said I never have doubt I have a lot of doubt I'm like really that seems really like it's not 100 I'm glad you said that I don't have doubt about God that doesn't mean I don't have doubt about basic day-to-day stuff okay I don't have doubt about the presence of and the constant C of the Divine in my life do I have doubt about what am I being guided to do today absolutely absolutely so what do I do there (50:06) is that there's kind of a metronome that says like for example doubt about what am I supposed to write okay and why you're right um and with that I will say all right um so I will start with where am I insecure and I will dive into that because I know you're talking to me and so obviously the block is not on your side it's on mine so what is it I don't want to hear and I'll start there because there are certain assumptions I always make which is you never stop guidance I do so I have to check all the valves (50:51) and the valves are what do I want to hear what don't I want to act on so I have to check my valves because guidance never stops flowing okay which which yeah it brings me to this quote of yours that I wanted to ask you about where you say you have to meet your intuition halfway if not more in order to become a refined laser-sharp vessel right and I wanted to understand this notion of meeting our intuition halfway if not more well because and by that I mean in intuition is not rational okay it's not a rational (51:34) sense it's not um we have it in our it's intuitive let's call it our intuitive intelligence all right our intuitive intelligence and our intellectual intelligence when I say meet it halfway I mean meet it on its own terms don't expect intuitive intelligence to function like physical intelligence like scientific intelligence even though it's subject to the same laws like um intellectual intelligence where you you you're looking up something and think I need to back this fact up and I can look it up here (52:18) intuitive intelligence you can't necessarily back it up you have to meet it halfway which means now I have to go on gut instinct I have to respect the science for what it demands of me and when I say faith and trust what I mean here is that you earn faith in yourself and maybe I didn't emphasize how important this is but you start out with saying like um I'm gonna walk around the block every day and you don't break your word to yourself you don't break and you you have to go through barriers which will (52:59) be your Saboteur which will say I walk tomorrow and you you have to earn that sense of self-esteem that comes from I don't break my word to myself first and if I keep that kind of tight ship with myself in here so that I go through the barriers of all the inner voices that I have to listen to that say ah you don't want to walk add this all the excuses and I make it through one at a time break that one break that one break that one now you're really actually listening to the shadow side of your intuition and you are (53:44) actually getting how strong that is and you're getting it and you get through it you get through it until you when you you finally get to the place where you recognize when I say to myself you know what I'm not gonna eat sugar anymore you take it's a command now to your whole system and then when your system starts giving you a command you listen this is a rapport and a language that you develop and this is how it's developed it's not developed by meditating no way it's developed by hardcore action in the (54:25) world of faith and trust so that you treat you you become a soldier inside and you become tough with yourself no excuses when you say so that and and and so when you say to yourself that's it we can't do sugar because our body is telling us we can't do sugar and you give yourself a command that's it it's off and you're going to go through those barriers again where The Saboteur comes up and all of this and your gut intuition will say break it don't break your word to yourself you're going to (54:58) hear your intuition guide you through this obstacle course and that's what the thread that you have to listen to consistently and the more you do the more you begin to respect that and then you realize this is my survival voice this is in fact tied to something else and then one day you'll say to it what do I do here I don't know what kind of decision to make here and it will say go left do this and you'll listen when you say when your body's saying to you something like you know don't eat (55:33) sugar what's your counsel for how to listen to what your body is saying to you um the law of balance is like in the world of biospiritual ecology if if you could think of that as the new science of of God biosphere Divine Organics the law of balance is this fundamental law that is like the metronome inside of you it just goes tick tick tick tick and and we know it knows when it's off a notch it knows when you know you've over eaten or under eaten or when you need sugar when you don't need sugar you just it's (56:21) and if you if you attune yourself to this remember here's something that is not emphasized enough I think Tammy and that's that all of the perceptual skills that we're talking about which is why I'm so glad that Norm and I made this wonderful program um it they require practice and knowledge you have to know what the human Energy System looks like you have to know how it's organized you have to memorize this you have to practice the human Energy System you have to live in your human Energy System you have to start thinking (57:06) in terms of what's distributed where and you you have to start thinking in the language of energy you have to start responding in it it's it's not as simple as I don't I I think I'll just know it in an instant because I need to know it today without earning that because this is this invisible world is its own its own fluid reality that you you you have to to to learn your way through here this is why this program for me is so valuable it teaches you this is what your first chakra is like hear the (57:46) contents of that part of your body here are the contents of that part of your energy system get to know this and then sense it memorize this and when you're in a tribal issue what are your tribal issues and when you're in a tribal confrontation when something tribal comes up pay attention to what part of your body is going to activate because it will be below your waist it has to be below your waist because it's a tribal issue when you are in when someone is dealing with self-esteem it's gonna hit you in your (58:27) solar plexus why because that's where it's located and it will affect your stomach it will affect this part of your body if if it's Financial issues where do they hit you they're going to hit your lower back your sciatic nerve it's going to hit this part why because that's how power is distributed in our body the energetic anatomical system is as specific as the physical and anatomical system but you have to learn it you have to learn every detail of it and then when you have and then you have to think in terms of (59:02) power and the distribution of your power so that when an issue becomes a a power guide and you realize this issue is going to play out in my lower back and therefore it I wonder if I'm feeling threatened by my survival is my do I feel threatened financially do you you have to learn to use the parts of this in your head so that you can sense them in your energy field all right I'm going to bring in another question here this one from Lori who writes in I experience asthma recently it seems I'm prone to pneumonia when I (59:44) have a wave of grief I feel like I'm pulled into a pattern of lung weakness I've been aware of this for many years my son died by homicide three years ago and since then it's much harder I appreciate your directness and your connection to the non-physical and ask what can I do differently well I don't know enough about what she's doing now to say what she's doing differently but I do know that what she's describing is unacknowledged grief and pain and I suspect that what my impression is (1:00:28) is that um the world in which she lives the environment in which she lives first her network of people has grown very small and I don't think that there is the kind of support she would like to have for grieving um I think The Grieving support has run dry and it's located in her lungs and I think that she doesn't know how to move on and continue living given this trauma given the do you know the idea like can I actually get healthy it's like guilt Health like survival guilt it's like dare I even consider being healthy (1:01:28) considering what my son did and I would ask her to to this not a rational question it's an irrational question and therein lies the answer is the guilt about dare I even consider getting healthy this is like uh do I do I feel like I need to keep grieving and suffering and it has to be physical you know am I willing to to keep going and be healthy I'm afraid to be healthy because it looks like I am moved on from his life do you see you see what I'm saying I do thank you Carolyn now you you mentioned (1:02:15) that through the program the science of medical intuition we're going to learn about how we practice working with the different energy centers and I just want to understand a little bit more about how you experience if you will the different chakras the different energy centers in the body and I say that because you know I think for a lot of people those of us who don't see them or sense them we've seen all these yogic diagrams and you know we've read that there are colors and sounds and it's kind of from the (1:02:47) outside in it's not from an inner experience out and so I want to ask you Carolyn what is like how do you sense the chakras these energy centers you know what Tammy I'm going to give you a very disappointing answer because I'm I'm as colorful as my personality can be I'm very dull as an intuitive in that I don't see anything I sense it I I'm like Teresa of Avila I have a sensing mechanism but I see nothing and um and now I simply sense a whole power package in somebody um so that I don't I don't think anymore in terms (1:03:34) of seven separate chakras because now I blend them with the mansions and the the tree of life and the uh seven chakras in the in in the seven musical notes so it's become a huge hologram for me in each person and um they become a living spiritual ecological Center and and and uh [Music] um every person's like a mini Universe for me like a mini Earth I don't I don't sense it the way I used to when I first began I had training wheels on but I don't anymore you see I don't and now um a person's filled with archetypal (1:04:32) patterns for me and they're filled with power struggles and they're filled with Incredible potential and they're filled with grace and they're filled with they're just this incredible bundle of Holiness yeah all right Carolyn I just have two final questions for you for somebody who's listening who has a a real Health Challenge and tuned into this webinar and is like you know I tuned into this because I really want some help and I've heard some inspiring things but I'm at a point where I am ready to pray my buns (1:05:08) off right now for my health and you know I know Carolyn teaches a lot on prayer she wrote a book Divine intimate conversations intimate conversations with the Divine what do you suggest to somebody in that situation okay so this is what I know to be absolutely the truth never tell God what to do and here's how you pray miracles happen all the time all the time and so what you say to God is um I'm gonna take the day shift and you take the night shift and I would appreciate all to I want to rest with the healing Angels Take me out (1:05:52) of my body and just send me with the healing angels and let them work with me all night and return me to my body in the morning and just repair and repair and let me dwell on Only The Graces that bring me back to full health and live in appreciation not in mystery not like what have I done to do this and what else can I do with us but including that and if this is the challenge I need to deal with that helped me deal with this help me thy will be done and as as tough a prayer as that is to say as tough of prayer as that is to say (1:06:38) that's it and then finally Carolyn you you mentioned that you know if you could wave a magic wand you would start like a college or a higher Academy of Medical intuition training and I've heard you say that you believe medical intuition is one of the most important sciences that we need in the decades to come tell me why because I think that most of us who are who are 40 years and older grew up in a world that we are now unlearning in the world that we grew up in energy the reality of energy energy Consciousness the power of our thoughts (1:07:23) and emotions was not emphasized it was much less energy Anatomy none of that was emphasized it wasn't even chakras was what we were never even told about everything that is now becoming commonplace and so how we've come to understand where illness comes from and what medicine is and how we heal is based on an archaic model that comes from the last century and it is ill-equipped for the next century so here we are in the middle where uh almost in the middle of this Century heading toward it where we need to (1:08:06) start to include in our template of what a human being is there our energetic Anatomy system our intuitive intelligence our physical intelligence our spiritual intelligence the whole of us as an equal force our bio-spiritual ecological system recognizing that we do not that we are also equally attached to the health of the collective that our health does not exist by ourself that the stress in the world is the stress in our psyche the psychic Health in the atmosphere is as much a factor in my health as my own psychic Health just like if (1:08:59) the air is polluted there's no difference between physical pollution and psychic pollution okay and they are both factors in the health of each one of us and we we simply don't get that we simply don't get that and we we simply do not get Tammy that and this is the reason I know that religions are inevitably going to be obsolete and that's because religions teach separateness they teach that in order to be true to this religion everything else is false because God belongs to this religion and not that religion which is (1:09:40) this idea of divide and conquer separate our Gods God's on our side when in fact we have now this model of holism and holistic which says all things are integrated that law of nature eclipses this nonsense in religion you cannot Thrive if you buy into this nonsense in religion you can't you can't Thrive holistically because they counteract each other so as we as we move ever more into the inevitable holistic community religions will become obsolete but the understanding of God is light love and law as as a transpersonal (1:10:35) galactic force of all creation this will replace a biospiritual ecology where we know we are co-creators and that what that we co-create what happens in my body what is one is in the whole that the laws of the universe are in fact God within our blood and bones this this is where we're going Carolyn mace along with Norm Sheely they've created an 18-hour program called the science of medical intuition included in the program is a full online workbook plus a morning assessment tool and an evening assessment tool for you (1:11:24) to practice and work along with the information coming from your energy centers along with a video workshop on medical intuition featuring Carolyn and Norm this program is a classic that sounds true wonderful program wonderful hit hit the learn more button if you're on the player page we'll put the link in the chat sounds true one members come join us use your 20 sounds true one member code Carolyn you know I say it every time and every time it's true I learn something new every single time we talk I don't know how it happens (1:12:04) you know but I do every single time I walk away somehow changed so thank you so much for the thunderous originality that you bring to every conversation thank you my dear dear forever sounds true love to you waking up thank you everybody with us thank you [Music] thank you thank you [Music] (1:13:45) foreign [Music] foreign [Music]