So are there any specific encounter can be a piece of critique, it can be a particular failure or maybe it’s, you know do you remember any particular setbacks that are, you know that had a profound impact on you? And how do you eventually sort of resolve and overcome that diffculty in your research group?

Masaki’s Answer:

So this one blind participant well she was really supportive but at the same time She really criticized a lot of researchers mentioning that a lot of researchers conduct user study because to write a paper so they are doing a research for research not for blind people.

她同样也批评了许多研究人员，说很多研究人员做用户调研只是为了写论文，只是为了研究而研究，不是为了盲人。

You never learn what challenges blind people are facing to form these movies and papers.You have to feel it.And in order to feel it,you have to meet them and talk to them.It’s the best way to discuss with them and see how challenging it is for them to navigare just even a straight corridor.

你永远不会从这些电影和论文中知道盲人真正面临什么。你必须去了解他们，想要真正了解他们，就必须去接触他们，和他们聊聊。最好的办法就是和他们交流，去看看他们走个路有多难，哪怕只是一条直路。

I don't think much people would be interested in accessibility.I’ve seen a lot of students,I’ve talked to a lot of people talked about how great accessibility research is.Sadly,I only found two students who would work with me to continue my passion.

Do you mind telling us a little bit more about this sense of obligarion you feel to do this research especially for the blind community?

Masaki’s Answer:

The first thing is that society talks a lot about inclusivity,diversity.首先社会上都在谈论包容、多元

But how many people,how many facilites does actually do the accessibility stuff?

但有多少人 多少设施真正考虑到了无障碍呢?

Is this building really accessible?

这栋楼真的方便残障人士使用吗?Is the airport really accessible?

Is people talking about diversity really accessible?口头上说着多元,又有多少是真正考虑到了所有人?

We have to make it into action not only talk about it.我们必须付出行动而不是嘴上说说

And to be honest,form my perspective I don’t really see people really doing accessibility

people talk about it.

说实话我觉得 真正实践无障碍功能的人并不多只是嘴上说说而已